Monday 8 October 2012

Interview with Andrew Adonis

As author of Tony Blair’s reforms to the education system, Minister for Schools and Transport Secretary, Lord Andrew Adonis was one of the most important shapers of domestic policy in the New Labour government.

Born in 1963, for much of his childhood he was brought up in care before winning a local education authority scholarship to Kingham High boarding school. From there his rise was meteoric: he graduated with a first in Modern History from Keble College Oxford, before being appointed to a fellowship in History & Politics at Nuffield College. He combined this with his duties as an Oxford city councillor for the SDP from 1987-91, and then after stints at the Financial Times and the Observer he worked for Tony Blair at the Number 10 policy unit from 1998-2005, where he drove Labour’s education agenda. The creation of academies (independently run state schools) has revolutionized the state sector, with results far exceeding expectations. He talks to Jonathan Metzer about his experiences in the last government and the challenges ahead.

As a former Oxford academic and SDP councillor what set you on the path to becoming a Labour cabinet minister? Which people have influenced you the most on that journey?

Roy Jenkins and Tony Blair. Roy taught me that the only point of being in national politics is to do something rather than be something. No-one ever remembers former ministers, however senior, only the one who achieve something. Tony Blair taught me you could lead the Labour party decisively in the direction of radical reform.

What do you think is the key to a good state education system?

Strong institutions and outstanding teachers. The academies programme has gone a long way to securing the first of these. Empowering schools and – in particular – great headteachers and govenors, has had a dramatic effect on resultsTowards the end of my new book, Education, Education, Education, I set out some of the remaining reforms including reforming the post-16 qualification system; expanding under-fives provision and above all a new deal for teachers. We need to make teaching the number one profession in the country. Teach First has gone a long way to achieving that but we must go further. My ideas on what we should be doing are all set out in my book.

When you worked for Tony Blair at the Policy Unit and then as Minister for Schools what was it like getting momentum behind the Academies programme?

It was hard work! The first half of my book chronicles the process in detail. I had to drive the whole thing, relentlessly, for ten years! It didn’t help that it took us some time to decide on the academies programme but even once we were up and running we were constantly fighting vested interests, in Whitehall, government and education. At one point I talk about the unholy alliance of the do nothing left and the do nothing right, confronted by that kind of united conservatism, it sometimes seemed as if we’d never get the necessary momentum behind the programme.

You were at the forefront of the failed negotiations between Labour and the Liberal Democrats after the 2010 election: what was it like in that six day period before the formation of the coalition government? Was a Lib-Lab coalition really on the cards?

Nick Clegg was never interested in working with Labour. He strung us along as far as he could in order to get more out of the Tories. The truth of the matter is that he had made up his mind. He liked Cameron and realised they weren’t too far apart ideologically. Where they were – notably on Europe – they ignored the topic.

What do you make of the coalition government so far?

It’s intellectually bankrupt. It came to power promising radical constitutional reform and austerity to cure recession. Both parts of that equation have clearly failed. All the big Lib Dem constitutional reforms have collapsed. On the economy, Plan A has failed and there is no Plan B.

As chief architect of the Academies programme what do you think about the policies Michael Gove is pursuing as Education Secretary?

Instead of tinkering with GCSEs, Gove should be pursuing real reform of post-16 qualifications. We need an ABacc similar to the IB and a corresponding TechBacc. He’s using up energy on a repackaging that is ideologically driven and gives a taste of the direction a Tory majority government would go. Their right flank believe that a certain proportion of the population should fail to get any qualifications on principle. This is educationally retrograde.

What do you think will be Labour's biggest challenges if we form a government after the next election?

Reshaping our economy to work for the many not the few. We need a strategy for jobs and growth that will work; a strategy that doesn’t leave the weakest in society to fend for themselves; a strategy that doesn’t lead to an unemployment crisis for young people. Who knows how many different plans the Tories will get through before the next election? Ours needs to be ready to go on day one.

What is your advice to anyone thinking of a career in public service?

Consider Teach First. There is no better route into public service and no better first entry on your CV. Oxford should be providing two, three, four times the number of Teach First teachers as it did last year. Inspirational teachers who went to Oxbridge is the most effective long term solution to the access challenges faced by both universities.


Andrew Adonis’ book Education, Education, Education: Reforming England’s Schools is published by Biteback and available here: https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/education-education-education-paperback

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